2021-07-16 09:47:31 <cbridge     > <cmtptr> i think that i might have a brain problem
2021-07-16 09:47:52 <cbridge     > <cmtptr> three of the last four bugs i wrote at work were inverted logic
2021-07-16 09:48:17 <cbridge     > <cmtptr> "if" when it should have been an "if not", or ">" when it should have been "<=", etc.
2021-07-16 09:59:07 <cbridge     > <iv4nshm4k0v> All work and no play makes you forget words how work.
2021-07-16 10:34:35 <cbridge     > <cmtptr> are you saying that if this keeps up i'm going to go on a murderous rampage with a fire axe against my own family in a spooky hotel during a blizzard?
2021-07-16 10:35:04 <cbridge     > <cmtptr> i better take some time off, then.  i wonder if my manager will accept that as a good reason
2021-07-16 10:37:22 <cbridge     > <iv4nshm4k0v> He'd better.
2021-07-16 10:37:22 <cbridge     > <iv4nshm4k0v> Яedrum
2021-07-16 12:53:47 <tangentstorm> what are some forthlikes besides retro and mako that run on virtual machines with small instruction sets?
2021-07-16 12:54:31 <tangentstorm> or i guess where else can i see someone's take on a core set of words that make up a forthlike?
2021-07-16 12:54:45 <eris[m]1    > <tangentstorm "what are some forthlikes besides"> uxn?
2021-07-16 12:54:46 <tangentstorm> (oh i already have f-18 from greenarrays)
2021-07-16 12:54:49 <eris[m]1    > colorforth?
2021-07-16 12:55:31 <eris[m]1    > uxn is a stack vm
2021-07-16 12:56:30 <tangentstorm> ah googling that lead to https://github.com/jinhanada/arkam as well
2021-07-16 13:20:12 <veltas      > tangentstorm: A lot of languages are like that, JVM, Lua, many old BASICs
2021-07-16 13:20:27 <veltas      > The B implementation on the PDP-11
2021-07-16 13:21:35 <tangentstorm> yeah. i'm interested mostly in the ones with very small instruction sets
2021-07-16 13:22:24 <tangentstorm> mostly just curious which opcodes the designers picked to be their 'axioms'
2021-07-16 13:22:41 <tangentstorm> i suppose it doesn't really matter :)
2021-07-16 13:29:26 <tangentstorm> i'm toying around with a vm idea that works like the utf-8 encoding scheme, where any asci letter just writes a byte to ram, and any valid utf-8 sequence does the same for multi-byte characters.
2021-07-16 13:30:01 <tangentstorm> which leaves something like 64 bytes available to hold other instructions.
2021-07-16 13:30:23 <tangentstorm> 64 opcodes i mean.
2021-07-16 14:15:55 <eris[m]1    > im assuming an address register then
2021-07-16 14:20:09 <tangentstorm> yeah, there's a read register and a write register like in colorforth
2021-07-16 14:21:03 <eris[m]1    > f18 has two registers that can be both read and written
2021-07-16 14:21:11 <tangentstorm> https://github.com/sabren/b4/blob/master/j/b4.ijs <- j, so i don't know how readable this is :(
2021-07-16 14:21:32 <tangentstorm> i kinda think that if you're going for a forth, it almost doesn't matter what your VM looks like... forth is the vm.
2021-07-16 14:21:44 <tangentstorm> you just need to pick something to host it.
2021-07-16 14:22:07 <veltas      > I also feel this way
2021-07-16 14:23:42 <siraben     > veltas: o/ saw you on HN
2021-07-16 14:24:04 <eris[m]1    > wow, folks actuslly writing j
2021-07-16 14:24:08 <eris[m]1    > didnt know that happened
2021-07-16 14:24:49 <tangentstorm> :D i write k at work, and j for fun. (and occasionally for a youtube channel)
2021-07-16 14:27:13 <eris[m]1    > oh wow
2021-07-16 14:27:22 <eris[m]1    > how'd you land that job?
2021-07-16 14:31:40 <tangentstorm> my old boss posted to the apl/j/k subreddit.
2021-07-16 14:32:13 <eris[m]1    > haha
2021-07-16 14:33:00 <tangentstorm> well, i mean he wasn't my old boss at the time. but i met him on there and it worked out. :)
2021-07-16 14:36:10 <tangentstorm> i don't know if we're hiring at the moment (i'm on paternity leave) but i wrote this about it a few months ago when we were: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/want-work-k-1010data-michal-wallace/
2021-07-16 14:36:57 <tangentstorm> the guy that made mako used to work there too, and found it through the same reddit post :)
2021-07-16 15:14:04 <hendursaga  > Hello, this might be a rather niche question, but is anyone aware of a Forth that runs on J2ME/Java ME? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1889034/what-programming-languages-target-j2me/1891023#1891023
2021-07-16 15:27:23 <tangentstorm> hendursaga: google turns this up: https://pdroms.de/sunmicrosystems-j2me/mid4th-v1-44-j2me-application
2021-07-16 15:32:31 <hendursaga  > huh, missed that one
2021-07-16 17:57:42 <crc         > retro10 had an implementation that ran on j2me.