2021-12-31 10:50:42 <cp-         > 🎄 Happy New Year 2022 🎄
2021-12-31 13:10:24 <imode       > happy new year!
2021-12-31 13:56:25 <remexre     > is there something like Moving Forth for optimizing forths?
2021-12-31 13:58:06 <remexre     > and relatedly, is there a good way other than "build it in" or "don't inline it" to inline + optimize words that touch the return stack
2021-12-31 13:58:19 <remexre     > eg I, if one weren't to make do loops a builtin
2021-12-31 15:07:23 <MrMobius    > remexre, do you mean building your own optimizing forth?
2021-12-31 15:07:29 <remexre     > yeah
2021-12-31 15:16:15 <MrMobius    > remexre, mecrisp is open source. you could look at that for inspiration
2021-12-31 15:16:29 <MrMobius    > I asked the creator about optimizing and he gave me this link https://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst/forthlecture5.html
2021-12-31 15:17:03 <remexre     >  I'll take a look at that, thnks
2021-12-31 15:21:36 <MrMobius    > remexre, also there is #mecrisp here and on hackint. the creator is really friendly
2021-12-31 15:29:56 <joe9        > what is Moving Forth about?
2021-12-31 15:36:08 <remexre     > joe9: it's a survey of different techniques for implementing forth
2021-12-31 15:36:11 <remexre     > and kinda-sorta a tutorial
2021-12-31 15:36:58 <remexre     > I'd say, it plus the spec plus the spec comments = a tutorial on implementing
2021-12-31 15:37:46 <remexre     > http://www.bradrodriguez.com/papers/moving1.htm
2021-12-31 15:38:18 <remexre     > er, "the spec" being https://forth-standard.org/ ; there's a lot of good stuff in the comments sections
2021-12-31 22:14:20 <MrMobius    > remexre, just found this poking around https://www.reddit.com/r/Forth/comments/lxtyfm/optimizing_large_forth_program/