2022-10-23 11:59:31 <joe9        > anyone attended the SVFIG meeting yesterday?
2022-10-23 13:09:14 <lagash      > Zarutian_iPad: yes, in general, I'd like to see BadUSB attacks much less effective than they are.. at the same time, I don't want to be locked out of my laptop when my built-in keyboard fails and I have to plug in a USB one..
2022-10-23 13:12:10 <Zarutian_iPad> lagash: the usual setup is to just do the same thing as when you step away from the computer: Like WindowsKey-L or Cmd-Option-L keycombo being pressed
2022-10-23 13:14:15 <Zarutian_iPad> plus log the event
2022-10-23 13:35:29 <lagash      > What's the closest thing to a Forth(-like) Emacsen?
2022-10-23 13:41:39 <lagash      > As in, an extensible editor / OS in the tradition of Emacs.
2022-10-23 13:45:55 <lagash      > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(text_editor) <-- written in a Forth-like and similar to TECO
2022-10-23 13:48:08 <olle        > I was surprised I found little about forth and vim :/
2022-10-23 13:49:50 <lagash      > Maybe I'll find something on https://www.texteditors.org
2022-10-23 13:53:07 <lagash      > https://www.texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Family_Classifications <--- no Forth implementations listed there...
2022-10-23 13:54:03 <thrig       > if all you had was a microcomputer with forth then there was probably a block editor and whatnot
2022-10-23 13:54:31 <thrig       > these days lots of folks skip the block editor on the assumption the bits are getting fiddled with elsewhere
2022-10-23 13:57:08 <lagash      > I'd prefer something other than a block editor, yeah
2022-10-23 13:59:11 <lagash      > https://www.texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?4th_Editor <--- not really an Emacsen, and also for DOS..
2022-10-23 14:08:37 <lagash      > Hmmm. Perhaps the sam / ACME editors are what I'm looking for..
2022-10-23 21:00:40 <KipIngram   > I kind of like block editors.  Encourages me to keep my code compact and well organized.
2022-10-23 21:01:04 <KipIngram   > I like for there to be one - but there could be higher level editors too.
2022-10-23 21:01:44 <KipIngram   > Also block editors can be so nice and simple themselves - doesn't take very long to bring one up.
2022-10-23 21:02:31 <thrig       > vi starts in aout 7 milliseconds for me
2022-10-23 21:22:11 <MrMobius    > what do you do in a block editor when you fill up the block and the next block is already full?
2022-10-23 21:23:04 <thrig       > according to Leo Brodie blocks alternated between code and comments
2022-10-23 21:24:04 <MrMobius    > what I mean is, practically speaking you will go back and add code somewhere other than the very end. what do you do when you need more room? can you renumber the blocks or something?
2022-10-23 21:24:40 <thrig       > presumably you'd jump to another block and run whatever is there