2023-01-11 06:02:55 <vms14       > https://termbin.com/7nvw is it readable?
2023-01-11 06:03:11 <vms14       > https://vms.neocities.org/a this is what it does
2023-01-11 06:03:27 <vms14       > I have to fix delta stuff, as it moves faster sometimes :/
2023-01-11 06:49:16 <veltas      > Happy belated birthday KipIngram, congrats
2023-01-11 09:49:31 <veltas      > I feel like I'm so much better at writing code than I am at changing/maintaining it. But maybe it's not me, maybe it's the code I'm trying to maintain.
2023-01-11 09:52:55 <thrig       > planting and empty field is easier than figuring out an overgrown lot
2023-01-11 10:21:58 <KipIngram   > Thanks veltas.  I'm just fine when it comes to maintaining my own code, but maintaining code written by others is a different matter.  There is just no substitute for  "knowing what's going on."  It's one of the best arguments for pair programming - makes it less likely for a "departure" to leave you over a barrel with part of your code base.
2023-01-11 10:25:08 <veltas      > Yeah I think pair programming can have value despite having twice the dev cost
2023-01-11 10:25:47 <KipIngram   > It doesn't appeal to me, but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile.
2023-01-11 21:41:56 <bjorkintosh > I've got an iceStick lattice fpga. came across this. https://youtu.be/rdLgLCIDSk0 (J1a SwapForth)
2023-01-11 21:42:01 <bjorkintosh > has anyone run it lately?
2023-01-11 23:02:09 <KipIngram   > Is that the one with 1k 4-input LUTS on it?
2023-01-11 23:02:16 <KipIngram   > One of the iCE40 chips?
2023-01-11 23:02:33 <bjorkintosh > correct
2023-01-11 23:02:37 <KipIngram   > I saw that's it's a nice affordable kit.
2023-01-11 23:02:47 <KipIngram   > Unfortunately I don't think it's big enough for what I'm trying to do.
2023-01-11 23:02:54 <bjorkintosh > which is what?
2023-01-11 23:03:01 <KipIngram   > And I haven't been able to get the Lattice software running on my Linux.
2023-01-11 23:03:13 <KipIngram   > I'm trying to design a stack machine processor.
2023-01-11 23:03:22 <KipIngram   > But I do want 32 bits.
2023-01-11 23:03:25 <bjorkintosh > <KipIngram> And I haven't been able to get the Lattice software running on my Linux. use icestorm
2023-01-11 23:03:35 <KipIngram   > A 16 bit might fit.
2023-01-11 23:03:45 <KipIngram   > Oh, I hadn't seen that one yet - I'll hunt it up.
2023-01-11 23:03:47 <bjorkintosh > https://clifford.at/icestorm
2023-01-11 23:03:54 <KipIngram   > thank you.
2023-01-11 23:04:24 <bjorkintosh > it works pretty well for the lattice and a few others.
2023-01-11 23:04:51 <KipIngram   > Oh, that looks nice.
2023-01-11 23:05:13 <KipIngram   > I'm using a Xilinx Artix 7 kit right now, but it's a power hog by comparison to the iCE40 parts.
2023-01-11 23:05:18 <KipIngram   > And expensive.
2023-01-11 23:05:31 <KipIngram   > I do like the 6-input LUTs, though.
2023-01-11 23:06:44 <bjorkintosh > hmm. that you might have to get symbiflow for. I don't have a 7. Just a 3, but it's not properly supported I think.
2023-01-11 23:06:51 <bjorkintosh > the 7 is supported.
2023-01-11 23:07:22 <bjorkintosh > KipIngram, https://youtu.be/EHePto95qoE
2023-01-11 23:07:28 <KipIngram   > Oh, I installed the xilinx s/w.
2023-01-11 23:07:32 <KipIngram   > It went in just fine.
2023-01-11 23:07:51 <bjorkintosh > well in case you wanted to try out a free (as in beer) version, you have that option as well.
2023-01-11 23:08:21 <KipIngram   > I do like that.  I'm just in a "try to make it work" phase right now, though - ultimately I'm very interested in the Lattice parts.
2023-01-11 23:09:55 <bjorkintosh > KipIngram, me too. I have two lattice boards, the icestick and the hx8k. can't figure out why the damned swapforth example isn't working.
2023-01-11 23:10:02 <bjorkintosh > I suspect it's got something to do with python
2023-01-11 23:23:23 <KipIngram   > I'm still working using Icarus Verilog and GTKWave right now - On't have enough togther to start firing up the board yet.
2023-01-11 23:24:29 <KipIngram   > I should be able to get the whole thing working that way.
2023-01-11 23:24:56 <KipIngram   > iverilog will let me read file to get the initial contents of a RAM module, so in theory I could simulate a power-up and the execution of some code from that RAM.
2023-01-11 23:25:53 <KipIngram   > I've taken a pause, though - I'm re-thinking some more about the layout of the code in RAM.  Hoping to find something more compact.