2023-03-09 04:00:09 <veltas      > https://www.hackster.io/news/andreas-eriksen-s-potatop-is-a-lisp-powered-laptop-with-a-battery-life-measured-in-years-2f5d79653f24
2023-03-09 08:23:21 <KipIngram   > Ah - so it has a solar cell.  That's a bit of a "cheat" using the phrase "battery life" in that way, but it's still cute.  :-)
2023-03-09 08:29:17 <KipIngram   > What he's really referring to is "battery longevity."  Charge discharge count.
2023-03-09 08:29:30 <KipIngram   > that headline is kind of click bait.
2023-03-09 08:31:38 <veltas      > It's still cool despite the cheat
2023-03-09 08:31:46 <veltas      > But yeah worth mentioning
2023-03-09 08:36:27 <KipIngram   > It is cool.
2023-03-09 08:55:03 <veltas      > Would be cool for a forthy thing like that to exist!
2023-03-09 08:56:22 <KipIngram   > I look forward to what we can get when e-ink gets fast enough to use as an actual real-time display.
2023-03-09 08:56:40 <KipIngram   > The battery life (real battery life0 of days or weeks may actually be feasible.
2023-03-09 09:02:30 <KipIngram   > Got an article in Electronics Design this morning on AI chips.  I actually find that terminology a little objectionalbe (the phrase AI  itself) - I see these things as just processors of a different sort; calling them  "intelligent" just isn't very "right" to me.
2023-03-09 09:02:45 <KipIngram   > They're not originating new concepts and ideas.
2023-03-09 09:02:57 <KipIngram   > They're just munging data, like all other processors do.
2023-03-09 09:03:55 <KipIngram   > But, it's a 21st century buzz phrase, just like "block chain" was for a while in there, and everyone wants on the bandwagon.
2023-03-09 09:04:45 <thrig       > John McCarthy invented AI as a way to get money
2023-03-09 09:05:10 <KipIngram   > That's not surprising to me.  You mean he coined the phrase?
2023-03-09 09:05:34 <KipIngram   > But... I feel a little different about the way they THOUGHT about it back then - around the 1970's.
2023-03-09 09:05:36 <thrig       > he says so himself in the lighthill debate on AI
2023-03-09 09:05:44 <KipIngram   > They really did have as their goal getting machines TO "think like us."
2023-03-09 09:05:55 <KipIngram   > That turned out to be something they couldn't achieve.
2023-03-09 09:06:19 <thrig       > probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03p2CADwGF8
2023-03-09 09:06:20 <KipIngram   > So over the years the field has evolved, into what I think would better be called "advanced probabilistic algorithms."
2023-03-09 09:06:40 <KipIngram   > But at least that was the goal in their own minds, so I don't begrudge them the phrase.
2023-03-09 09:07:16 <KipIngram   > I think that's just not how our thinking "works," so they were doomed form the start, but it was a worthy goal at least.
2023-03-09 09:07:59 <KipIngram   > I'm sure a lot of what goes on in our brains could be thought of as "computing," but I think there's something more too - something that's just beyond that.
2023-03-09 09:08:07 <KipIngram   > And we haven't the first clue what it is.
2023-03-09 09:20:36 <KipIngram   > And actually all that old work probably was of value, because while I don't think we can gift a machine the ability to have original thought, I do think we can get them to "mimic" thoughtful behavior.   Things like ChatGPT and so on.
2023-03-09 09:20:44 <KipIngram   > We'll keep getting better and better at that.
2023-03-09 09:21:27 <KipIngram   > Daniel Dennett and folks like him say "the difference is unimportant - if it behves like it thinks, it thinks."  But I think that's horse crap.
2023-03-09 09:22:02 <KipIngram   > I couldn't even have a reasonable debate with Daniel Dennett, because we're just starting out from fundamentally incompatible points of view.
2023-03-09 09:22:24 <KipIngram   > I think our inner subjective experiences are things that must ultimately be explained - he just... discounts them.
2023-03-09 09:22:49 <KipIngram   > They're "inadmissible" in his view.
2023-03-09 09:23:25 <KipIngram   > For him, if you can't point to it on a strip chart or an instrument gauge or something like that, it DOESN'T EXIST.
2023-03-09 09:26:08 <KipIngram   > Hey, where does one actually "try out" ChatGPT?  I tried chat.openai.com, but it never seems to get past the  "checking your browser" point.
2023-03-09 09:26:44 <thrig       > lie and claim it's Chrome?
2023-03-09 09:38:17 <KipIngram   > It is Chrome.
2023-03-09 09:38:32 <KipIngram   > It finally worked.  It just took a fairly long time.
2023-03-09 09:40:20 <KipIngram   > I'm disappointed to see it won't tell you anything about breaking headlines.
2023-03-09 09:40:31 <KipIngram   > Told me its training data only went through 2021.
2023-03-09 09:40:53 <KipIngram   > They're failing to reach the standards of The Machine in Person of Interest.
2023-03-09 09:41:12 <KipIngram   > That's a quite good show, btw.
2023-03-09 09:42:00 <KipIngram   > And the character Zoe Morgan is HOT.  :-0
2023-03-09 09:42:03 <KipIngram   > :-)
2023-03-09 14:57:48 <KipIngram   > Yeah - my car is ready to come home from the shop.