2023-04-28 04:42:37 <veltas      > Just when you thought Windows memory usage couldn't get any worse https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/27/microsoft_windows_rust/
2023-04-28 04:49:52 <koisoke     > eh, probably very little of the bloat and some trivial fraction of attack surface are in the rewritten portions if that article is to be taken at face value
2023-04-28 04:50:08 <koisoke     > *and some less trivial
2023-04-28 05:12:29 <veltas      > I'm joking a tiny bit, but my concern is about the future
2023-04-28 05:12:40 <koisoke     > *nod*
2023-04-28 05:12:47 <veltas      > Whenever people write something "modern, in Rust" it always ends up bigger
2023-04-28 05:13:02 <veltas      > I don't blame Rust for this, I don't have reason to believe it's Rust's fault inherently
2023-04-28 05:13:53 <veltas      > I am getting quite sick of this attitude that C is some kind of weird ancient dialect that nobody can possibly do right, it's far too conceited
2023-04-28 05:14:14 <veltas      > Yeah it has issues but the programming language is just one of the factors at play
2023-04-28 05:14:18 <koisoke     > there is a minimum practical runtime there but that becomes a rounding error for the kind of thing i think you are talking about. no, it's in a constellation of design choices even if that doesn't inherently need to be the case
2023-04-28 05:16:44 <koisoke     > also, i got my ham license tonight and i'm kind of stoked. even if i'd be more stoked if i had a radio right now..
2023-04-28 05:17:36 <koisoke     > thought about ordering a vhf/uhf HT in anticipation but i didn't want to jinx myself and ...
2023-04-28 05:29:21 <veltas      > If I make it to retirement age I might get into ham
2023-04-28 05:29:37 <veltas      > It's very cool though
2023-04-28 05:29:55 <veltas      > KipIngram how far are you away from retiring?
2023-04-28 05:30:31 <veltas      > I'm 30 so I'm not exactly counting the seconds right now
2023-04-28 05:33:59 <koisoke     > i'm 42 and went to a meetup today after passing the exam(s) but before being issued a license and i was by far the youngest one there. but POTA and SOTA are huge and seem to have a pretty young crowd
2023-04-28 05:38:43 <koisoke     > getting licensed was something i meant to do as a teenager and then forgot about until some friends suddenly got into it and i figured, might as well, esp. with the morse code proficiency requirements rescinded
2023-04-28 05:40:48 <veltas      > Well I don't mean to imply I think it's for older people, I just mean to imply it's less important to me than other things that I already don't have enough time for unfortunately
2023-04-28 05:41:35 <koisoke     > *nod*
2023-04-28 05:42:30 <veltas      > 
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2023-04-28 13:12:45 <KipIngram   > veltas: I'm 60.  So "order of five years," hopefully, but hard to be sure.
2023-04-28 13:12:59 <KipIngram   > It'll become a lot more feasible after this last daughter clears college.
2023-04-28 13:13:09 <KipIngram   > Mortgage will be paid off in about five years, too.
2023-04-28 13:13:45 <KipIngram   > What I may do instead of "retiring" officially is just "slow down some," and let them decide how long to keep me around.
2023-04-28 13:14:22 <KipIngram   > To the extent they'll let me do my work from here at home (which I can 99.99% do), then it hardly feels like working.
2023-04-28 13:15:05 <KipIngram   > So by "slow down" I don't really mean be less productive - I mostly mean "show my face at the office less."
2023-04-28 13:15:18 <KipIngram   > Amazing the importance that executives seem to put on face-showing.
2023-04-28 13:15:46 <KipIngram   > I think it's a job-dependent thing; some jobs you really just can't do as well remotely, but my particular job you can.
2023-04-28 13:16:41 <thrig       > none of the Mars rovers have been in-person
2023-04-28 13:19:52 <KipIngram   > I think part of the "you must show up X days a week" policy is just to avoid having people who DO need to show up to get their work done from being able to complain about people who don't have to not doing it.
2023-04-28 13:20:14 <KipIngram   > Childish behavior, and I think they should just be told so, but apparently it's just easier for the execs to shove everyone into it.
2023-04-28 13:20:19 <KipIngram   > "Make the problem go away."
2023-04-28 13:20:53 <KipIngram   > But when I go into the office, there's two hours that day I could have otherwise been working that I'm not able to.
2023-04-28 13:21:36 <KipIngram   > I'm fudging it - they're really been getting about X/2 from me the last few weeks.
2023-04-28 13:22:06 <KipIngram   > And no one is complaining, but it's nonetheless a source of tension for me.  I have a basic belief that employees should do as they're told.
2023-04-28 13:22:27 <KipIngram   > So doing it grates on me, but  not doing it grates on me too.
2023-04-28 14:52:32 <gordonjcp   > half the time I was WFH anyway
2023-04-28 14:52:44 <gordonjcp   > no point driving half an hour into the workshop to drive right past my house on the way to site
2023-04-28 21:33:18 <KipIngram   > Yeah; a few  years ago I went in every weekday and didn't really think too much about it.  But then the pandemic came and they made us stay home, and that lasted until last fall.  And by then they'd "trained" me - I'd figured out exactly how easy it was to do my work from home.   Then there was a rollover somewhere up the executive chain, and the new guy decided that we needed to be around three days a week.
2023-04-28 21:33:24 <KipIngram   > Now it just feels completely stupid.
2023-04-28 21:34:10 <KipIngram   > Wow, it's about to come a real blow here.
2023-04-28 21:34:16 <KipIngram   > Just starting up.