2024-11-04 10:47:57 Wow #forth is invite only channel , since when ? 2024-11-04 15:43:07 a question, is a Forth at the basics mostly just the two stacks and the dictionary? 2024-11-04 15:52:42 also memory from ALLOT and HERE which you have free access to with store and fetch 2024-11-04 15:56:06 maybe it might be appropriate also to throw in the idea of the extensible compiler, through IMMEDIATE 2024-11-04 15:56:33 https://www.forth.com/starting-forth/11-forth-compiler-defining-words/ 2024-11-04 16:03:08 dave0: the thing is that this forth is being built atop of uFork which does not have linear memory nor address arithmatic 2024-11-04 16:03:49 think scheme cons cells but with four fields instead of two 2024-11-04 16:06:12 i dunno ... how do you create an array? normally you use allot 2024-11-04 16:11:33 Zarutian_iPad: i would say the fundamental essence of forth is the two stacks, concatenative function composition, and maybe the whitespace-delimited parsing 2024-11-04 16:11:43 ok bye 2024-11-04 18:31:32 zelgomer: that is what thought 2024-11-04 19:02:04 when you said "the dictionary", do you mean the vocabulary search, or do you mean the memory model? 2024-11-04 19:03:12 i would suggest the flat memory model is not what makes a forth 2024-11-04 19:03:57 that book "designing and programming expert systems" is quite cool, I'm only at page 100 but it's already making me learn stuff I did not learn in other books, just with an introduction to forth 2024-11-04 19:04:16 like fence, >name >body .id etc 2024-11-04 19:04:42 also it's going to show how to implement some sort of lisp and prolog with forth 2024-11-04 19:05:01 it's about artificial intelligence in forth, which is quite weird 2024-11-04 19:05:58 I wonder why he choose forth for that and why he wants to implement a lisp and prolog on it instead of just using those 2024-11-04 19:06:31 also it says c is not a right lang for ai, but forth, smalltalk, lisp and prolog are 2024-11-04 19:06:51 I wonder why he considers forth a good lang for ai 2024-11-04 19:07:04 but is indeed an interesting book 2024-11-04 19:08:03 he says forth is good for symbolic processing, which I cannot understand 2024-11-04 19:08:31 what is fence? 2024-11-04 19:08:48 fence is a "protection" for forget 2024-11-04 19:09:03 interesting 2024-11-04 19:09:20 some words are protected and you cannot forget them, you can FENCE OFF and remove them 2024-11-04 19:10:53 I suppose today makes not much sense, because forget is dep, but I like how this book is teaching me a lot of stuff I did not see anywhere before and it's just giving a basic introduction to forth 2024-11-04 19:13:35 I haven't read it, but 'In Search of Stupidity' sounds entertaining. 2024-11-04 19:15:48 doesn't really seem like i need any help finding or generating stupidity 2024-11-04 19:19:20 why be a 1x or a 10x estupido when you can be a 1000x 2024-11-04 21:46:14 vms14: https://vfxforth.com/flag/jfar/vol4.html 2024-11-04 21:53:09 GeDaMo :0 2024-11-04 21:53:19 there are several ai related documents there 2024-11-04 21:54:15 the two first are quite simple, but I like the one about natural language processing 2024-11-04 21:56:28 I thought you might find that interesting :) 2024-11-04 21:56:43 I do 2024-11-04 22:03:00 úúú bookmarked!