2025-04-23 01:06:28 <xentrac     > veltas: haha
2025-04-23 01:07:48 <xentrac     > and I suppose 1 dup + dup + 1+ dup + base ! will set the I/O base to decimal regardless of the initial base
2025-04-23 01:09:58 <xentrac     > crc: 23:09 <xentrac> 3 4 + .
2025-04-23 01:09:58 <xentrac     > 23:09 <[bot]konilo> Error running ilo: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
2025-04-23 01:10:52 <crc         > Hmm, I'll check things
2025-04-23 01:11:03 <xentrac     > not important but I thought you might want to know
2025-04-23 01:12:50 <crc         > (incidentally, that wouldn't actually work in konilo; the equivilent would be `#3 #4 n:add n:put`)
2025-04-23 01:18:59 <xentrac     > ah, thanks
2025-04-23 01:25:17 <[bot]konilo > Konilo via IRC
2025-04-23 01:25:46 <MrMobius    > 2 base ! 1010 base !
2025-04-23 01:28:04 <crc         > xentrac: fixed some path issues; it should be working now
2025-04-23 06:28:31 <szilard     > Did anybody managed to compile recent gforth (>0.7.9) at all? It just hangs here during the compilation on my machines/phones.
2025-04-23 09:49:06 <anthk_      > szilard: on i686 the gforth port it's broken under OpenBSD; it might be the same upstream
2025-04-23 09:49:41 <anthk_      > I'm using pforth and is not bad for an ans implementation; altough IDK how to use the sockets module
2025-04-23 09:53:28 <szilard     > anthk_ thanks!
2025-04-23 10:42:07 <anthk_      > It lacks gnu forth's extra modules but overall as a forth it's good
2025-04-23 10:43:10 <anthk_      > words with pfe/pforth: https://termbin.com/oi56
2025-04-23 11:14:18 <szilard     > I just compiled PForth on OmniOS (it is an Illumos variant / distribution. Illumos itself is a fork of OpenSolaris, which is Net/Consolidation, eg. the basis of Sun Solaris 10).
2025-04-23 12:52:32 <KipIngram   > anthk_: MANY years ago I did some work with pforth and used sockets.  I tweaked it so that the input stream arrived via a socket.  I used it to run a pick and place machine.
2025-04-23 13:59:48 <xentrac     > is pForth derived from PFE, anthk_?
2025-04-23 14:08:58 <KipIngram   > xentrac: I don't think so; their histories online seem to indicate they're separate efforts.
2025-04-23 14:10:52 <KipIngram   > Both started in the early 1990s, but different people are attached.  And it looks like pForth was an attempt to be more minimalist.  Of course I guess there's no way to know all of the influences a developer may have had (unless they tell us).
2025-04-23 14:17:51 <crc         > iirc, pfe is slightly older than pforth, and the two aren't related
2025-04-23 14:35:03 <KipIngram   > pforth appealed to me for my purposes at the time I used it (early 2000's) because it's so very portable.  It just gave me no trouble at all with compiling.
2025-04-23 14:37:10 <KipIngram   > The main fuss I had with it was getting just the basic prompt operation the way I wanted it - I wanted the usual, with the output and the "ok" on the same line as my input.  I didn't realize then how deeply that was baked into the line input built-ins.  I fixed that after switching the input stream over to a socket, so I didn't actually have to putz around with termios that time.
2025-04-23 14:38:29 <xentrac     > KipIngram: aha, I was confused by anthk_ seeming to lump them together
2025-04-23 14:39:11 <xentrac     > I recently took the time to hack the first version of PFE to compile on current Linux
2025-04-23 14:39:53 <xentrac     > it used a bunch of GCC extensions to C that have since been removed, and even a Linux system call that has been removed
2025-04-23 14:41:04 <xentrac     > more recent versions of PFE compile out of the box, but I wanted to know if my "minimal roguelike" hack would run under the first version of PFE, because that was the version that ran under MS-DOG
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2025-04-23 15:36:07 <cleobuline  > strange the days are in the bottom :(
2025-04-23 15:37:54 <xentrac     > FIFO
2025-04-23 15:37:56 <xentrac     > LIFO
2025-04-23 15:39:25 <cleobuline  > forthBot:  SEE CAL-IRC-HIGHLIGHT
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2025-04-23 15:39:25 <forthBot    > = IF CR THEN LOOP 2DROP 2DROP 2DROP CR ;
2025-04-23 15:39:51 <cleobuline  > they should be at the top
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2025-04-23 15:44:35 <cleobuline  > there is a release use at your own risk :)
2025-04-23 15:44:56 <cleobuline  > run on macos ubuntu and others
2025-04-23 15:45:17 <cleobuline  > not windows
2025-04-23 15:56:58 <KipIngram   > 
ACTION likes "not windows."  ;-)

2025-04-23 15:58:19 <qbit        > ty :D
2025-04-23 16:00:51 <cleobuline  > windows is obsolete
2025-04-23 16:01:07 <cleobuline  > nothing with unix
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