2023-11-13 02:55:32 <KipIngram   > Swyrl:  Nice.
2023-11-13 03:47:03 <Swyrl       > KipIngram: Thanks. I guess it technically counts as a concatenative language, because the code there is forthy.
2023-11-13 03:47:11 <Swyrl       > Well, it compiles to something forth-like.
2023-11-13 04:01:30 <veltas      > KipIngram: I think the invasion is based on medieval principles
2023-11-13 04:01:47 <veltas      > People weren't stupid in medieval times, they just had very different principles to an extent it seems alien now
2023-11-13 08:43:42 <veltas      > Just had someone ask me a managerial question because I've got same name as my boss
2023-11-13 08:43:49 <veltas      > Promotion by aliasing
2023-11-13 09:11:54 <KipIngram   > I can't tell exactly what you mean by "medieval" principles, exactly.
2023-11-13 09:12:12 <KipIngram   > That could mean a lot of things, I think.
2023-11-13 09:12:59 <KipIngram   > I think history has given Russia good reason to worry about future invasions - they've been invaded quite a lot over the centuries.
2023-11-13 09:13:27 <veltas      > Yes I suppose it is quite vague
2023-11-13 09:13:31 <KipIngram   > And of course worrying over their future national revenues makes a lot of sense too.
2023-11-13 09:13:42 <KipIngram   > They're WAY dependent on those oil revenues.
2023-11-13 09:13:53 <KipIngram   > oil/gas
2023-11-13 09:14:06 <KipIngram   > Yeah - I can't even tell if I agree or not.  :-)
2023-11-13 11:36:46 <KipIngram   > Anyway, from what I can tell the West's big worry is that if this analysis is right - if it's really control of those choke points they're after, then Ukraine isn't enough.  They'll have to move on into Poland, Latvia, Estonia, etc.  And those are NATO countries.  NATO will have to respond to that, and will win, and the fear is that at that point Russia will resort to nukes, since they see this as about
2023-11-13 11:36:48 <KipIngram   > fundamental survival.
2023-11-13 11:37:08 <KipIngram   > Maybe that's totally wrong - I hope so .  Maybe they just want Ukraine's oil/gas and don't want Ukraine as a competitor and that's the end of it.