2024-01-16 00:35:16 well more power to you. maybe one day i'll try again, but i think i'm just spinning my wheels right now 2024-01-16 00:35:36 probably going to set this aside and try a new approach 2024-01-16 00:50:08 that being: just write a small interpreter in c which lives with the project, use that to bootstrap a cmforth-style cross compiler, and then use that to code for the target 2024-01-16 02:37:18 Well, one difference is that I'm not attempting something that can just cross-compile all over the place. I am planning a vm based system such that the vm part will be binary common across platforms, but I will have to write the vm emulation itself for each target. 2024-01-16 02:37:44 I'll try to put as much of things as I can in the portable part, but certain parts I just won't be willing to for performance reasons. 2024-01-16 02:57:08 what i last described is more in line with what i said a few weeks ago, btw: to think of forth as a macro assembler. idk how i strayed off that into this rabbit hole again 2024-01-16 03:07:41 Forth can be a source of temptations like that. I've gotten myself into a mess via feature creep on several of my systems over the years. 2024-01-16 03:08:31 yeah, that pretty much sums up all of my forth experiences 2024-01-16 03:09:11 i like the language a lot, but the feature creep temptation is the greatest challenge it poses to me 2024-01-16 03:09:38 So, I've been watching a bunch of videos recently by a guy named Peter Zeihan. Geopolitical analyst. He has some surprising things to say. For years I've heard about what a problem China might be in the future, but Zeihan thinks they're basically going to implode from demographic collapse. Apparently their birth rate is totally in the toilet, and has been for a long time. 2024-01-16 03:10:03 And you hear people worry about the size of the Chinese navy, but according to Zeihan 90% of those ships are small little things that aren't blue water capable. 2024-01-16 03:10:37 And they're terribly, terribly dependent on imports for important things like energy, fertilizer, and so on. 2024-01-16 03:11:19 So it's starting to look to me like they're unlikely to be a huge future threat. 2024-01-16 03:11:34 decades of restricting families to one child combined with a culture that strongly prefers boys eill do that 2024-01-16 03:11:59 Yes. Also moving everyone into urban industrial environments where people naturally have fewer children. 2024-01-16 03:12:09 our birth rate isn't so hot either, btw. illegal border crossings now beat it 2024-01-16 03:12:26 Yeah, but we do have a good size millenial generation. 2024-01-16 03:12:43 Apparently our Baby Boom generation did something that no one else's Baby Boomers did. We had kids. 2024-01-16 03:13:17 So we have kind a "straight down the sides with wiggles" demographic chart. Lots of countries have these upside down pyramid looking things. 2024-01-16 03:14:01 He expects interest rates to go up substantially, because the Boomers are pulling their investments into safe havens, and the new investors, Gen X, is a smaller generation. 2024-01-16 03:14:54 I was frustrated when I finally got enough money to invest and interest rates had fallen so, but now it makes sense. I'm at the tail end of the baby boom - I was late to the party and those that got there first had already driven rates down. 2024-01-16 03:15:42 I remember being in college with no money to save, and you could put cash in a totally safe money market investment account and get 10% return. 2024-01-16 03:15:49 Seems crazy today. 2024-01-16 03:16:57 Re: the Forth "traps," I'm really prone to having "ideas" and getting excited over them, and first thing I know I've just built in too much. 2024-01-16 03:18:51 I think you've told me, but I've forgetten, zelgomer - what part of the country are you in? 2024-01-16 03:32:20 anybody in gen x who hasn't already been investing for decades is behind 2024-01-16 03:34:03 and i keep my location specifics to myself because i pretend this identity is anonymous 2024-01-16 04:14:30 :-) Fair enough. I've been so lazy about that - I'm just "KipIngram" everywhere. Hope I don't ever come to regret that. 2024-01-16 04:18:07 It's not like my name was "John Smith." 2024-01-16 04:18:55 I agree re: investing, but usually one's income is a lot higher during the older years. 2024-01-16 04:19:03 And your expenses are lower. 2024-01-16 04:19:09 Well, hopefully. 2024-01-16 04:19:39 I'm a little late closing out my child rearing expenses, because I did two marriages and two crops of kids. 2024-01-16 04:19:56 My wife's right on schedule, though. 2024-01-16 15:39:05 some of the channel logs on forth.chat (from the 13th through today) failed to sync; this has been corrected 2024-01-16 22:06:51 It froze here last night, which for us is "somewhat uNusual." Most of the time we just get "down near' freezing. I've always figured it's because we have so much humidity typically - all that heat capacity in the air makes it hard to reach the extremely low or extremely high temperatures. 2024-01-16 22:07:01 That said, this past summer was extraordinarily hot for us. 2024-01-16 22:08:04 All of us whine and carry on something fierce when it gets below freezing - folks in colder climates probably get pretty amused at us. 2024-01-16 22:08:26 ACTION is amused 2024-01-16 22:10:57 folks in Seattle complain when it gets above 32C or so, and I'm like that's not even warm 2024-01-16 22:14:17 Yeah, that's what, like 90 F or something? 2024-01-16 22:14:37 That's pretty warm, but we usually top out a little above that in the summer, like 94-95 most days. 2024-01-16 22:14:50 This past summer we were up over 100 for a couple of months. 2024-01-16 22:15:03 And as high as 108-110 a few days. 2024-01-16 22:15:14 Which is nuts for this area. 2024-01-16 22:20:07 I get where Seattle is coming from - I like those 75 F (24 C) days too.