2024-02-02 11:03:57 i'll tell you a secret 2024-02-02 11:04:04 i like forth 2024-02-02 11:07:59 i wonder about a phone or handheld device powered by forth, it must be cool 2024-02-02 11:08:27 imagine a smartphone where the os is forth 2024-02-02 11:09:22 Which forth? :P 2024-02-02 11:10:21 vms14: do you know of the Canon Cat? 2024-02-02 11:11:41 no, looking at wikipedia 2024-02-02 11:11:54 seems one of the creators of mac made it 2024-02-02 11:12:22 Yeah, Jef Raskin 2024-02-02 11:12:32 no graphics, so no mouse. but kind of expensive price 2024-02-02 11:13:12 i knew about the jupiter ace, some member here had one 2024-02-02 11:13:46 looking also at https://www.quartus.net/products/forth/ 2024-02-02 11:13:51 There's a whole lot of stuff about the Cat on archive.org 2024-02-02 11:14:48 https://archive.org/details/jefraskin 2024-02-02 11:14:51 i was reading a post of a guy asking about the same i was asking 2024-02-02 11:14:52 https://comp.lang.forth.narkive.com/hUnkZRnW/forth-as-smartphone-s-operating-system 2024-02-02 11:22:25 it looks like no one is daring to compete vs android or iphone, when smartphones started there were some alternative systems but they seem to have died all 2024-02-02 11:23:23 yet it must be cool to have a forth powered phone or handheld device 2024-02-02 11:24:12 i can have gforth on android termux, but that's not what i mean 2024-02-02 11:24:33 actually i'm playing with that right now, reading starting forth 2024-02-02 11:28:19 Just saying, not really willing to discuss, but I fail to see anything of value in that post. 2024-02-02 11:35:54 yeah, it's just rants 2024-02-02 11:36:47 but it would be cool if you had a handheld device that you can program yourself using forth, having access to stuff like sockets, drawing on the screen, etc 2024-02-02 11:37:34 the problem is a very hard task, but i think compared to other languages in forth could be easier 2024-02-02 11:38:51 mainly to program the applications you use every day, and to bend your system at your will 2024-02-02 11:39:26 but, it's just a dream, not likely to become true 2024-02-02 11:40:23 it needs a forth fanatic that has the power and money to do such thing and to start some form of business 2024-02-02 11:44:25 Mobile devices are so complex devices. I fail to see even the relevance of choosing any single programming language. 2024-02-02 11:45:16 Just .. saying my opinion, or lack thereof, I don't know what to do with such ideas. :) 2024-02-02 11:46:11 With anything you need to see pros and cons, and it's so moot just to point out some good points of some random idea (like using Forth). Sure, those ideas would be good, already be definition, but what about the millions of other variables. 2024-02-02 11:46:28 haaha don't worry, i know it's just a thing it won't happen 2024-02-02 11:46:32 :) 2024-02-02 11:46:57 it's just that the idea of having a device you can hack yourself using forth looks quite cool 2024-02-02 11:48:00 forth is the only high level language that can be also seen as a low level language 2024-02-02 11:49:24 What does that even mean. 2024-02-02 11:50:20 that it can have a one to one relation with assembly instructions and also allows to add abstractions on top of that 2024-02-02 11:50:37 plus the ability to write machine code on some implementations 2024-02-02 11:51:27 but somehow C could be looked at that way since you can add inline assembly 2024-02-02 11:52:07 sorry if i say shit, i'll rather keep reading the book 2024-02-02 11:52:09 :D 2024-02-02 11:59:45 i love the representation of the EXECUTE word in starting forth 2024-02-02 12:01:18 https://imgur.com/a/C4iwgfF 2024-02-02 14:54:37 KipIngram how are you? it's rare to not see you there