2024-02-04 01:44:54 <vms14       > zelgomer what do mean by you keep being skeptical to some degree?
2024-02-04 01:44:59 <vms14       > like with what
2024-02-04 01:45:20 <vms14       > you think forth should do some things in a different way?
2024-02-04 01:48:32 <zelgomer    > skeptical of some of forth dogma and that it's actually any better than c
2024-02-04 01:49:45 <vms14       > memory allocation for some reason feels better in forth
2024-02-04 01:54:12 <zelgomer    > deallocation, not so much
2024-02-04 01:54:46 <vms14       > forget
2024-02-04 02:03:30 <zelgomer    > indescriminste
2024-02-04 02:17:05 <zelgomer    > on unix systems, libc is built on a similar allocation mecbanism called the program break
2024-02-04 02:34:20 <zelgomer    > so i guess that's to say it's really not a fair comparison. you can write c without libc and do memory allocation like forth. you can also use the forth dictionary and implement a c style heap manager
2024-02-04 02:35:47 <thrig       > sqlite has pretty minimal allocation requirements for example
2024-02-04 18:19:43 <user51_     > I don't know how practical it is, but at least it was worth reading https://old.reddit.com/r/Forth/comments/vap2ut/share_cool_forth_programs/ickg8gx/?context=3
2024-02-04 18:26:41 <vms14       > it's cool
2024-02-04 18:27:00 <vms14       > when i grow up i want to become a forthwright
2024-02-04 18:28:13 <vms14       > i cannot explain what i like so much from forth
2024-02-04 18:29:05 <vms14       > but metaprogramming and bottom up is the stuff i have more interest in programming, i assume forth features that provide that and the fact it encourages factoring is what i like
2024-02-04 18:29:56 <vms14       > i like how easy is to make a new definition, just : name code ;
2024-02-04 18:30:43 <vms14       > and how you are supposed to write a lot of those, like little bricks
2024-02-04 18:31:58 <user51_     > Write forth, not a forth!  :P
2024-02-04 18:32:00 <vms14       > i have no interest in performance or compactness, only i like the fact colon words are "cheap" so i can abuse them without problem
2024-02-04 18:32:22 <vms14       > yeah, that's what i'm doing lately, learning forth properly and using gforth
2024-02-04 18:32:38 <vms14       > i'm not touching my own abomination
2024-02-04 18:32:59 <vms14       > just reading the starting forth book and testing the stuff on gforth
2024-02-04 19:05:19 <thrig       > some changes are required as gforth (probably) has a different cell size than sforth assumes