2024-02-20 23:03:07 <zelgomer    > since nobody likes forget, would it be uncouth to repurpose forget to simply mean "look up this word in the 'current' vocabulary and unlink it" ?
2024-02-20 23:04:02 <veltas      > Wouldn't say 'nobody' likes FORGET
2024-02-20 23:04:52 <veltas      > I think semantically FORGET should probably relinquish dictionary space and unlink everything newer than the forgotten word as well
2024-02-20 23:05:01 <zelgomer    > isn't mark the preferred method?
2024-02-20 23:05:50 <veltas      > In ANS and Forth 200x it's preferred but the standards aren't universally appealing
2024-02-20 23:06:03 <veltas      > It's deprecated in ANS I think(?)
2024-02-20 23:06:30 <zelgomer    > do you have a better word to name what i described? use case is this sort of thing:   vocabulary foo also foo definitions  vocabulary private also private definitions  ( stuff stuff stuff)  previous definitions  ( public stuff stuff stuff)  forget private
2024-02-20 23:06:36 <veltas      > Because I think they felt it wouldn't work with wordlists and search orders, which I don't really agree with. You can make it work fine.
2024-02-20 23:06:59 <veltas      > SCRUB I think(?) has been used for that zelgomer
2024-02-20 23:07:06 <zelgomer    > perfect, thank you!
2024-02-20 23:07:27 <veltas      > Is this for a forth system you're writing?
2024-02-20 23:07:38 <zelgomer    > more or less yes
2024-02-20 23:07:42 <veltas      > Standard?
2024-02-20 23:07:44 <zelgomer    > no
2024-02-20 23:09:06 <zelgomer    > i'm doing quite a bit of weird stuff, but mostly trying to adhere to forth-79/83-era conventions unless there is a compelling reason (which is defined by how i feel about it :)) not to
2024-02-20 23:11:52 <zelgomer    > e.g. i have quotations and a few combinators, c-style escape characters in string literals, postpone instead of compile and [compile], and radix prefix notation for numeric literals instead of a base variable
2024-02-20 23:12:11 <zelgomer    > to name a few
2024-02-20 23:13:08 <veltas      > In JonesForth it's called HIDE
2024-02-20 23:13:28 <veltas      > I might have AI-halucinated SCRUB, I can't find reference to it
2024-02-20 23:29:15 <KipIngram   > I always have liked the 79/83 era Forth stuff.
2024-02-20 23:30:07 <KipIngram   > zelgomer: I also have radix prefix for numeric literals.
2024-02-20 23:30:21 <KipIngram   > Arbitrary, but I also support x: and b:
2024-02-20 23:56:43 <zelgomer    > veltas: i'm already using hide to mean "make the current definition unfindable", and then its counterpart is reveal once the definition is completed