2024-04-20 04:59:40 <lf94        > I discovered why you should not care how big your parameter stack gets
2024-04-20 04:59:59 <lf94        > Using purely the parameter stack forces you to always use only what you need
2024-04-20 05:00:01 <lf94        > as in
2024-04-20 05:00:12 <lf94        > If you allot memory, you will never get it back, more or less
2024-04-20 05:00:19 <lf94        > with the stack, you are always consuming values
2024-04-20 05:04:28 <Al2O3       > that is one way of looking at things.
2024-04-20 07:04:53 <lf94        > Like, now my code is polluted with result values and having to load/copy them in certain places
2024-04-20 07:05:07 <lf94        > it's made some code simpler though, I think
2024-04-20 09:28:31 <veltas      > lf94: You can ALLOT with negative values to reclaim memory
2024-04-20 09:28:54 <veltas      > Provided you didn't compile or define anything else into dictionary after that
2024-04-20 20:01:02 <remexre     > how do people feel about doing an "the UI is the editor" sorta thing
2024-04-20 20:01:33 <remexre     > where you've got the editor on the top half of the screen, and a key for "EVALUATE this line"
2024-04-20 20:01:42 <remexre     > (and "EVALUATE this screen")
2024-04-20 20:02:13 <remexre     > and the output just goes to the bottom
2024-04-20 20:02:59 <GeDaMo      > Doesn't Factor do something like that?
2024-04-20 20:03:48 <remexre     > oh, possibly; i know this mode of interaction from Lisp and SLIME/slimv
2024-04-20 20:04:03 <MrMobius    > works pretty well for sql
2024-04-20 20:04:15 <Zarutian_iPad> look up SmallTalk/Squeak for ideas
2024-04-20 20:11:15 <crc         > remexre: I've done that in the past. I like it, but it's never really caught on with any other users of my systems.
2024-04-20 20:11:18 <zelgomer    > factor has a ui like this, yeah. i'm probably not your target audience, but fwiw, i don't like things like that. i want to write code in my preferred text editor and compile it or test it in my preferred shell.
2024-04-20 20:12:23 <zelgomer    > if you could make it integrate with my workflow instead of taking over my workflow, then i'm infinitely more likely to at least give it a chance
2024-04-20 20:15:02 <crc         > IIRC, I first saw this done in herkforth (a linux/powerpc color forth)
2024-04-20 20:21:42 <crc         > I think zelgomer's preference matches what I see from my users; there's some interest in a more friendly REPL, but most code is being written externally and run from the shell. (with retroforth, this doesn't apply to konilo)
2024-04-20 21:01:10 <remexre     > Hm, okay; I might see if I can add a zmodem mode or something to allow file upload
2024-04-20 21:18:17 <lf94        > veltas: that doesn't seem particularly great
2024-04-20 21:18:19 <lf94        > :p