2024-05-24 00:02:08 <thrig       > quick, sue it for whiplash and collect millions from a clueless jury
2024-05-24 01:49:02 <Al2O3       > LCD-jury :)
2024-05-24 07:50:31 <veltas      > KipIngram: Except for controllers where you have to specify open drain, and it's not open drain by default, so any activity can short out and damage chips
2024-05-24 07:50:33 <veltas      > Seen that too
2024-05-24 07:50:54 <veltas      > By the way, I do like I2C, I just think it's highly contrarian to say it's simpler than SPI
2024-05-24 07:51:40 <veltas      > I2C is de facto standard for sensor, power manager chips, and simple hot-swapped EEPROM access like on display port
2024-05-24 07:51:52 <veltas      > And for good reason
2024-05-24 07:59:49 <veltas      > We say 'slower' but it's definitely fast enough for the kind of chips it's used in.  If you want a fast serial standard that supports that kind of safe interaction then use USB
2024-05-24 08:01:48 <veltas      > I've seen with normal I2C pull-ups, no special handling or terminators, you can go to a few megs with reasonable reliability, pretty good for a standard that aims at 100-400K
2024-05-24 08:02:20 <veltas      > Not near the max capacitance mind you
2024-05-24 08:30:41 <veltas      > Anyone here tried robot test framework?
2024-05-24 15:36:04 <KipIngram   > Yeah, I2C supports several enhanced speed grades, and the highest speed ones are "modes" you have to activate by sending a command.  That might be one reason they equip their I2C signals with push-pull drive capability.  I guess it also might sometimes be just that that seemed easier to the designer.
2024-05-24 15:36:51 <KipIngram   > There are a number of things that get done with transistors in an IC that your first thought might be to do someother way - transistors have gotten awfully cheap.
2024-05-24 16:31:12 <veltas      > vim works quite well over 115k serial