00:24:10
##forth
<zelgomer>
that's just demonstrably false
00:26:11
##forth
<zelgomer>
why are you not the first person i've heard making this claim lately? is this the new leftist mantra? after they fucked up the economy, now they try to convince everyone it's not their fault because nobody could possibly understand it?
00:27:03
##forth
<zelgomer>
the truth is that economics have been very well understood for centuries, it's just socialists who don't get it
01:00:01
##forth
<veltas>
Variables make stuff so much easier
01:00:30
##forth
<veltas>
I'm glad I use them a lot
01:06:35
##forth
<zelgomer>
the problem with variables is that they're always changing
01:24:35
##forth
<veltas>
Word... word never changes
01:30:34
##forth
<KipIngram>
I'm a little hard core about variables. I avoid them unless the data actually needs to be around long-term. I don't use them for "stack relief." I've got another mechanism for that (that I also try not to use unless things get really messy).
01:42:40
##forth
<vms14>
I like temporary variables that will only exist during the execution of a colon word and disappear after it, as some sort of auxiliar variable for binding stack elements
01:43:43
##forth
<vms14>
concat langs have a feature I always wanted in a language which is to duplicate the value of an expression without having to create a variable for it btw
01:46:07
##forth
<vms14>
in my abomination I have both temporary and normal variables
01:46:37
##forth
<vms14>
but they have more uses since it has lexical scope
01:48:24
##forth
<vms14>
that's some super unreadable code I wrote in my abomination
01:49:02
##forth
<vms14>
I was trying to clean it a bit but got distracted
01:50:10
##forth
<vms14>
it's a todo list, the second one will be a grocery list app which is similar
01:50:34
##forth
<vms14>
I should make the snake game with curses to see how it compares with the experience I had in forth
01:50:55
##forth
<vms14>
I enjoyed making the snake game in forth actually
01:51:08
##forth
<vms14>
even if it felt hard and had no idea of what I was doing