IRC Log - 2025-04-11 - ##forth

Channel: ##forth
Total messages: 38
Time range: 00:08:48 - 21:15:40
Most active: cleobuline (22), xentrac (7), mforth (6)
00:08:48 ##forth <cleobuline> forth: 1234567891234577 FPRIME2? .
00:09:08 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: LOAD "test.fth"
00:09:18 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: 1234567891234577 FPRIME2?
00:09:25 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: .
00:09:25 ##forth <mforth> 1
10:38:52 ##forth <veltas_> GMP is cool isn't it
15:08:45 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: LOAD "test.fth"
16:10:53 ##forth <user51> xentrac: Any further insight on this? https://dercuano.github.io/notes/gelfand-principle.html
17:00:24 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: " un montre poilu effrayant avec des tentacules et des gros yeux " IMAGE
19:30:54 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: : test
19:31:04 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: DUP
19:31:16 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: * . ;
19:31:24 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: 4 test
19:31:25 ##forth <mforth> 16
19:31:56 ##forth <cleobuline> multilins definitions , an innovation on irc for a forth-bot
19:42:42 ##forth <crc> cleobuline: my konilo bot also supports multiline definitions :)
19:43:35 ##forth <cleobuline> koool !!!
19:44:10 ##forth <cleobuline> but i do not speak the kolino langage yet :(
19:44:17 ##forth <cleobuline> konilo
19:44:39 ##forth <cleobuline> i will try
20:04:21 ##forth <cleobuline> forth: LOAD "test.fth"
20:04:35 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: LOAD "test.fth"
20:04:42 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: QUIT
20:04:42 ##forth <mforth> Environment for cleobuline has been freed.
20:04:50 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: WORDS
20:04:50 ##forth <mforth> USERNAME .S . + - * / MOD DUP DROP SWAP OVER ROT >R R> R@ = < > AND OR NOT XOR & | ^ ~ << >> CR EMIT VARIABLE @ ! +! DO LOOP I WORDS LOAD CREATE ALLOT ." CLOCK BEGIN WHILE REPEAT AGAIN SQRT UNLOOP +LOOP PICK CLEAR-STACK PRINT NUM-TO-BIN PRIME? FORGET STRING " 2DROP IMAGE TEMP-IMAGE CLEAR-STRINGS DELAY EXIT MICRO MILLI
20:04:56 ##forth <cleobuline> perfect !
20:04:59 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: LOAD "test.fth"
20:12:31 ##forth <cleobuline> mforth: ROLLDICES
20:12:31 ##forth <mforth> <3> 4 5 6
21:00:50 ##forth <xentrac> user51: well, I've been memorizing Chinese vocabulary recently, and it strikes me that it was a particularly poor example of Gowers's point. not that the vocabulary isn't arbitrary and memorization-demanding, but if languages' vocabularies are on a spectrum from more arbitrary to more systematic, Chinese is way over on the systematic end of the spectrum
21:02:52 ##forth <xentrac> I've shifted my test-first development to use Hypothesis more often, which allows me to write tests for the general case instead of listing a bunch of examples, but I haven't abandoned writing specific example tests
21:04:53 ##forth <xentrac> in general I think it's still true that I find specific examples before general principles easier to understand, and that both are necessary
21:05:24 ##forth <xentrac> if for some reason you only had room to state one, stating the general principle would be better, because you can derive specific examples from it, but not vice versa
21:15:13 ##forth <xentrac> I think it's still true that some people claim they find the opposite presentation, general principle before specific examples, clearer
21:15:23 ##forth <xentrac> maybe they do
21:15:40 ##forth <xentrac> I don't have enough experience teaching to know