00:14:41
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<cleobuline>
forthBot: EXIT
00:26:12
##forth
<cleobuline>
easy to kill xentrac
00:27:27
##forth
<cleobuline>
i just whant over to play with
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##forth
<cleobuline>
others
00:30:55
##forth
<cleobuline>
sorry i am drunk
00:35:46
##forth
<xentrac>
it's good to have others play with it!
00:35:55
##forth
<xentrac>
sorry to hear you're drunk
00:36:00
##forth
<xentrac>
I hope you feel better tomorrow!@
00:42:23
##forth
<cleobuline>
xentrac: do you see micro-forth in assembly ?
00:43:06
##forth
<cleobuline>
but i will not go foreward with it
00:44:08
##forth
<xentrac>
I did visit the page
00:44:13
##forth
<xentrac>
but I did not try runnign it
00:44:34
##forth
<cleobuline>
it works
00:45:03
##forth
<cleobuline>
i spend hours to debug save registers etc
00:45:21
##forth
<cleobuline>
it'as a headake
00:45:40
##forth
<xentrac>
writing things in assembly is always a bit slower
00:46:05
##forth
<xentrac>
but I find it relaxing because there's no man behind the curtain
00:46:12
##forth
<xentrac>
so you can be more sure that it will work
00:47:42
##forth
<cleobuline>
there are no magics in the code just save register and call primitives
00:49:22
##forth
<xentrac>
but I did write a web server, the runtime support library for Ur-Scheme, a Tetris game, a simple task-switching library for C, and an interpreter for a dynamic object-oriented language with multiple dispatch
00:51:59
##forth
<anthk_>
on that, I'd love a bootable and forth for x86 under a pendrive, or a floppy even
00:52:04
##forth
<anthk_>
s,and,ans
00:53:12
##forth
<cleobuline>
nice ...
00:54:24
##forth
<xentrac>
anthk_: you can get pretty close with F-83 running under FreeDOS
00:54:43
##forth
<xentrac>
if you put "@F83" in AUTOEXEC.BAT
00:54:48
##forth
<anthk_>
yep, and svardos
00:54:50
##forth
<anthk_>
with MINA
00:54:51
##forth
<anthk_>
I tried
00:55:38
##forth
<anthk_>
which is ciforth?
00:58:01
##forth
<anthk_>
mmm yes, close
00:58:56
##forth
<anthk_>
I would rip out the documentation (or dump the PDF into a TXT file) and that's it
01:03:39
##forth
<xentrac>
nice
01:03:50
##forth
<xentrac>
I'd forgotten about this
01:10:51
##forth
<cleobuline>
tinyboot1.tbf1 :)
01:10:54
##forth
<cleobuline>
interresting
01:11:36
##forth
<anthk_>
.r as u.r it's because eforth under subleq lacked that :p
01:14:11
##forth
<anthk_>
now I expect Don Hopkins to post some similar PostScript code for that fractal
01:24:01
##forth
<xentrac>
I feel like that should be doable
01:24:14
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<xentrac>
thanks for the link! I posted a comment on the thread too
01:29:56
##forth
<anthk_>
also
01:30:02
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<anthk_>
from the C code in the blog
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##forth
<anthk_>
: sier cr 32 0 do 32 0 do i j and if ." _ " else ." M " then LOOP cr LOOP ;
01:54:35
##forth
<xentrac>
I did something like that just now too :)
01:54:49
##forth
<xentrac>
except I think you should cr before the inner do
01:54:52
##forth
<xentrac>
I even picked 32!
01:59:22
##forth
<anthk_>
32 factorial?
01:59:34
##forth
<anthk_>
ah, the limit
02:00:34
##forth
<anthk_>
I didn't refresh the page
02:01:02
##forth
<anthk_>
and I forgot about 'bl'
02:01:33
##forth
<xentrac>
well, I forgot about ."
02:01:57
##forth
<xentrac>
which I think is a better approach than dup emit emit
02:08:18
##forth
<anthk_>
now, otoh, mandelbrot with forth... it's possible without complex numbers
02:08:29
##forth
<anthk_>
I saw it under open firmware
02:09:47
##forth
<anthk_>
ah yes
02:12:40
##forth
<wolfdog>
complex numbers are just spicy pairs of floats ;)
02:12:42
##forth
<xentrac>
zx, zy = zx*zx - zy*zy, 2 * zx*zy -- zᵢ₋₁²
02:12:44
##forth
<xentrac>
zx, zy = zx*zx - zy*zy + x, 2 * zx*zy + y -- zᵢ = zᵢ₋₁⁴ + c
02:13:13
##forth
<xentrac>
that's the quartic version though
02:13:39
##forth
<xentrac>
zx, zy = zx*zx - zy*zy + x, 2 * zx*zy + y -- zᵢ = zᵢ₋₁² + c
02:13:46
##forth
<xentrac>
is the usual quadratic version
02:13:46
##forth
<anthk_>
i know
02:14:02
##forth
<anthk_>
I have the straight implementation in tcl
02:14:07
##forth
<anthk_>
yes, binoms
02:14:29
##forth
<anthk_>
the math library it's plain tcl; and the forth scientific library does the same
02:15:11
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<wolfdog>
tcl <3
02:15:26
##forth
<wolfdog>
i'm currently writing a stack lang running on top of tcl, for fun
02:15:27
##forth
<anthk_>
even jimtcl can borrow tcl's complex.tcl file as is
02:16:13
##forth
<anthk_>
eh, with tcl you could create a simple forth at light speed...
02:16:48
##forth
<wolfdog>
i guess, yeah :) it's still fun to do though
02:32:58
##forth
<anthk_>
wait, dc it's turing complete?
02:33:51
##forth
<anthk_>
I always tought of dc as a crippled RPN calculator
02:34:17
##forth
<anthk_>
with a stack and registers but not far more
02:36:18
##forth
<anthk_>
ah, it has some input support
03:08:04
##forth
<xentrac>
what makes dc Turing-complete is that you can store strings in registers and run them