2026-04-15 13:24:22 <tpbsd       > hmm, I finally played the video my daughter sent me of a 'coin eating robot' kit I sent her 5 year old son
2026-04-15 13:25:17 <tpbsd       > I'm not impressed the thing looks vicious as it swallows the coins, and the boy looks a bit afraid of it taking his fingers!
2026-04-15 13:25:48 <veltas      > Oh dear
2026-04-15 13:25:53 <tpbsd       > I ordered it from china direct to them for about $5
2026-04-15 13:26:22 <veltas      > Yeah it's an educational chinese toy to teach them about the dangers of the machinery they will be working with
2026-04-15 13:26:46 <tpbsd       > hahaha, good one!
2026-04-15 13:27:14 <tpbsd       > the Chinese are more concerned with training than playing it seems
2026-04-15 13:27:55 <tpbsd       > it doesnt have a 'western imperialist finger eating monster' sign on it tho
2026-04-15 13:28:48 <tpbsd       > id you have a AK47 nearby it no doubt shows you how to strip, clean and reassemble it
2026-04-15 13:37:26 <tpbsd       > good news, Ive bought 3 expensive torches with swivel heads in the last year, one made in USA, 2 made in china. The Chinese units were about 2x each the price of the one made in usa, guess which one is still working but the lipo battery is dying, the others are smashed from dropping and unrepairable ?
2026-04-15 13:37:51 <tpbsd       > yep, the USA one is built like a tank
2026-04-15 13:38:09 <tpbsd       > I've droped it heaps of times, it's stiil working
2026-04-15 13:38:38 <tpbsd       > I found it's also easy to dissasemble today, and the battery is replaceable! YAY
2026-04-15 13:40:17 <tpbsd       > actually the USA one is probably 2 years old
2026-04-15 13:50:08 <veltas      > What site did you buy the chinese ones on?
2026-04-15 13:50:56 <tpbsd       > australian site I think
2026-04-15 13:51:09 <tpbsd       > hmm, Im assuming theyre Chinese
2026-04-15 13:51:38 <veltas      > There are lots of sites that sell cheap chinese crap overpriced
2026-04-15 13:52:33 <tpbsd       > yeah, thats the impression Im getting
2026-04-15 13:53:05 <veltas      > If I had bought something like that in the UK, and it broke within 6 months and was not cheap, then I would be able to get a refund
2026-04-15 13:53:12 <veltas      > I don't know if australia has similar laws
2026-04-15 13:53:25 <tpbsd       > they looked very well designed initially, but theyre full of noob design bugs
2026-04-15 13:53:34 <veltas      > But I'd rather just buy quality products in the first place, I don't bother refunding stuff usually ... I just know not to buy again from them
2026-04-15 13:54:15 <tpbsd       > I tried. the price was $130 per torch, thats pretty pricy and should indicate a decent unit
2026-04-15 13:54:48 <veltas      > Crazu
2026-04-15 13:55:04 <veltas      > They didn't let you refund?
2026-04-15 13:55:40 <veltas      > https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/buying-products-and-services/consumer-rights-and-guarantees
2026-04-15 13:57:36 <veltas      > Sound like a bunch of crooks to me
2026-04-15 13:58:02 <tpbsd       > nah, out of warranty by then
2026-04-15 14:01:17 <veltas      > In Australia there is no specific time limit for a consumer rights refund, if the item doesn't last as long as it 'should' for the price and kind of item
2026-04-15 14:01:34 <veltas      > So a torch that costs $130 and lasts like a year is no good
2026-04-15 14:01:45 <veltas      > But maybe not worth the effort of raising a complaint
2026-04-15 14:01:59 <tpbsd       > Ilack the will to fight city hall when the vendor refuses
2026-04-15 14:02:09 <tpbsd       > Im too old for all that stuff now
2026-04-15 14:07:36 <tpbsd       > veltas, ya cant fight all your life, you get old and sick at some point and dont have the energy to fight
2026-04-15 22:27:30 <veltas      > Fair
2026-04-15 22:33:54 <veltas      > I like how konilo has a lot of instructions that just say life....
2026-04-15 22:34:09 <veltas      > And that's life.... man