2026-05-31 10:19:05 <lisbeths    > https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~bolo/shipyard/3ins4th.html
2026-05-31 10:19:57 <xentrac     > a classic
2026-05-31 10:23:17 <lisbeths    > is this smaller than sectorforth?
2026-05-31 10:26:06 <xentrac     > yes, much.  because it's taking what Sergeant considers the central, most important aspect of Forth — the ability to interactively probe the computer interpretively — and stripping away everything else, including colon definitions, arithmetic, etc.
2026-05-31 10:26:52 <xentrac     > Chuck Moore has a different perspective, considering Forth to be more about factoring, and different people have different opinions
2026-05-31 10:29:00 <lisbeths    > oh so this forth doesnt actually exist on the machine its running on
2026-05-31 10:29:54 <xentrac     > well, initially all you have is the three instructions
2026-05-31 10:30:09 <xentrac     > that's enough to build the rest if you know the 'HC11's machine language
2026-05-31 10:30:52 <xentrac     > arguably it's more like a "monitor" than a Forth
2026-05-31 11:40:01 <Stalevar    > lisbeths, why is it called forth?
2026-05-31 11:41:21 <Stalevar    > I think simplest possible must at least be extendable from itself without machine language. While machine language can add hardware manipulation words or to rewrite words to make them faster
2026-05-31 11:41:48 <Stalevar    > But at least should support stdio and colon definition, I think?
2026-05-31 20:36:51 <tabemann    > to me standard IO is not necessary, but colon definitions are -- if you don't have the ability to make new definitions, how can you really claim to have a Forth?