2026-07-02 07:20:13 <deadmarshal > https://people.csail.mit.edu/nhm/cam-book.pdf
2026-07-02 08:48:42 <xentrac     > cleobuli_: that's great!
2026-07-02 08:50:40 <xentrac     > 20:05 < xentrac> not surprising it was dead if you were using casket
2026-07-02 08:50:40 <xentrac     > 20:09 < crc> Casket works fine most use of the time; my sites don't get a
2026-07-02 08:50:50 <xentrac     > I was just joking about the name
2026-07-02 14:44:55 <cleobuli_   > xentrac:    when i will finished it il you do accec for a download , ( mac os )
2026-07-02 14:45:54 <cleobuli_   > i have to do soe improvment to the orth and also do a video export
2026-07-02 14:46:24 <cleobuli_   > i have to do some improvment to the forth and also do a video export
2026-07-02 14:54:43 <cleobuline  > the forth is there , just for editing the rules xentrac
2026-07-02 14:55:28 <cleobuline  > it's perfecty adapted for automata rules the forth
2026-07-02 14:56:53 <cleobuline  > yes i'm using this book https://people.csail.mit.edu/nhm/cam-book.pdf
2026-07-02 14:58:06 <cleobuline  > it will do exactly the same forth and set of samples
2026-07-02 14:58:50 <cleobuline  > next i will send the app to margolus and toffili ( there are stille alive near 77 )
2026-07-02 15:07:52 <cleobuline  > may be i will add more planes
2026-07-02 15:08:28 <cleobuline  > i think the app will be finished in one month
2026-07-02 15:26:38 <cleobuline  > xentrac:  the challenge is to port the app  on win and linux
2026-07-02 16:56:31 <crc         > xentrac: I recognize that; wasn't thinking clearly on Tuesday or yesterday due to heat exhaustion issues. Doing a little better today.
2026-07-02 18:29:25 <xentrac     > crc: oh no, I hope things continue to improve
2026-07-02 18:30:12 <xentrac     > cleobuline: no macOS here!
2026-07-02 18:30:27 <cleobuline  > why ?
2026-07-02 18:30:52 <cleobuline  > macos is the best os in the world
2026-07-02 18:31:29 <xentrac     > because fuck Apple and their consistent policy of disempowering users and locking them out of the hardware they've purportedly bought
2026-07-02 18:32:21 <xentrac     > central control of computing such as Apple has established is the dream of every totalitarian secret police
2026-07-02 18:32:37 <xentrac     > and now it's in the hands of Donald Motherfucking Trump
2026-07-02 18:33:01 <cleobuline  > pff
2026-07-02 18:33:28 <xentrac     > Apple have  already destroyed much of what was good on the internet
2026-07-02 18:33:57 <xentrac     > and now they're going to destroy democracy and fundamental human rights
2026-07-02 18:35:01 <xentrac     > eliminating any semblance of national sovereignty on issues such as privacy, infosec, and competition
2026-07-02 21:01:47 <veltas      > Apple are relatively good privacy-wise, since violating privacy isn't their business model
2026-07-02 21:03:08 <veltas      > They're outspoken about privacy and have an okay track record of resisting warrants or designing so they can't backdoor even if they're compelled to
2026-07-02 21:04:45 <veltas      > They're far from perfect on privacy, but just a lot better than Google
2026-07-02 21:10:49 <veltas      > I do own exactly 1 Apple share though as a disclaimer