2026-09-07 01:01:47 <xentrac     > hmm, I don't know, oak.  That's a good question
2026-09-07 03:53:34 <crc         > oak: IORs are implementation defined, so there's no portable way to do that
2026-09-07 04:31:16 <oak         > crc: I considered that, but the string representations could also be implementation-defined
2026-09-07 04:31:58 <oak         > It needn't be consistent across Forth systems, just useful for communication of errors.
2026-09-07 04:32:09 <oak         > the ior values are also impl-dependent.
2026-09-07 06:34:32 <xentrac     > errno numbers in C are also implementation-defined, but that doesn't stop perror() from being standardized
2026-09-07 06:34:44 <xentrac     > in fact I think they may have finally standardized strerror() too