2024-06-21 00:50:55 <[Petros]    > hi
2024-06-21 02:21:46 <crc         > Hi [Petros]
2024-06-21 02:23:08 <crc         > dozens: re: apnea; it's gotten worse over the last twelve years, so I'll be going back on a CPAP machine in the near future
2024-06-21 02:35:12 <[Petros]    > crc my dad is on a machine...does that mean that I probably also suffer from it without having realized it yet?
2024-06-21 02:35:25 <[Petros]    > does it get passed down the generations?
2024-06-21 02:39:00 <crc         > I've read that there is some genetic aspects that can increase risk of apnea, but not found any extensive studies of this
2024-06-21 02:39:53 <[Petros]    > hmm
2024-06-21 02:41:19 <crc         > for my case, my mother has sleep apnea, but less severe than mine was when I was first diagnosed
2024-06-21 02:43:32 <[Petros]    > i see
2024-06-21 02:43:51 <[Petros]    > well at some point i have to go to that sleep lab
2024-06-21 02:44:05 <[Petros]    > have u gone through that experience?
2024-06-21 02:44:14 <[Petros]    > sleeping with sensors attached ?
2024-06-21 02:44:37 <crc         > I've had four sleep studies at a sleep lab, and the most recent one was done at home
2024-06-21 02:45:04 <crc         > I dislike the lab; sleeping in a strange place, with a lot of sensors hooked up was not fun
2024-06-21 02:46:27 <[Petros]    > for sure is not fun
2024-06-21 02:46:39 <[Petros]    > plus i'd get nervous
2024-06-21 02:46:42 <crc         > One time they put me on oxygen during the night; when I got up the next morning I felt amazing.
2024-06-21 02:46:48 <[Petros]    > of contantly being monitored
2024-06-21 02:50:38 <crc         > The monitoring aspect doesn't really bother me, but I can understand nervousness around it
2024-06-21 02:51:09 <[Petros]    > i think i might get an apnea just because i'd be going through the procedure
2024-06-21 02:51:15 <[Petros]    > out of anxiety...
2024-06-21 02:51:26 <[Petros]    > that they might find out that i have it
2024-06-21 02:51:30 <[Petros]    > :)
2024-06-21 02:53:52 <crc         > 
ACTION understands that feeling

2024-06-21 02:57:16 <[Petros]    > it's like when they get your blood pressure...apparently they'll always find it higher than normal because of a psychological anxiety about a doctor/nurse in a uniform measuring your BP....it gives you anxiety and it raises BP
2024-06-21 02:58:59 <crc         > I find that a bit of meditation can help lower BP (and to a small degree, blood glucose; which matters to me as a diabetic), though there's not always much time to do that before they do a BP check.
2024-06-21 02:59:48 <[Petros]    > I find that if the nurse is drop dead gorgeous then my BP would be sky high...
2024-06-21 02:59:53 <[Petros]    > sooo
2024-06-21 03:00:10 <[Petros]    > who's fault is that then?
2024-06-21 03:00:19 <[Petros]    > whose even
2024-06-21 03:01:20 <crc         > I'm not sure if stress over an apnea test would be enough to trigger enough incidents to trigger an actual diagnosis
2024-06-21 03:01:40 <[Petros]    > no idea
2024-06-21 03:01:45 <crc         > BP is much more dynamic
2024-06-21 03:03:01 <[Petros]    > do you know if apnea is connected to gastric reflux?
2024-06-21 03:03:14 <[Petros]    > or one affects the other?
2024-06-21 03:05:29 <crc         > I
2024-06-21 03:05:50 <crc         > I'm not aware of any actual links between them
2024-06-21 03:09:07 <crc         > I'd suspect there might be some overlap; it's possible that long term reflux could cause damage to muscles in the throat that might contribute to development of apnea
2024-06-21 03:11:05 <crc         > but it's not something I've studied (I don't suffer from gastric reflux as far as I can tell, so it's not something I ever looked into)
2024-06-21 03:14:04 <crc         > I should note that my knowledge of apnea related studies is ~17 years old, as I haven't really researched in between being diagnosed back in 2006/2007, and a surgery that largely resolved my issues for several years after that
2024-06-21 03:32:28 <[Petros]    > guess what time it is now?
2024-06-21 03:32:34 <[Petros]    > time to go to bed!
2024-06-21 03:32:47 <[Petros]    > let's hope for the better!
2024-06-21 03:32:52 <[Petros]    > laterzzzzZZZzz
2024-06-21 21:01:46 <[Petros]    > hello all
2024-06-21 22:51:54 <dozens      > [Petros]: my whole family has severe sleep apnea. i have been expecting to need a machine pretty much all my life. finally went on one when i turned 40
2024-06-21 23:01:39 <[Petros]    > hmm
2024-06-21 23:01:44 <[Petros]    > i'm 49
2024-06-21 23:01:56 <[Petros]    > i might be needing one without me knowing already...
2024-06-21 23:01:58 <[Petros]    > oh well
2024-06-21 23:02:34 <[Petros]    > when do you actually know that you need one? when you feel that you haven't rested at all the next morning?